Following a meeting between a group of evangelical leaders and
Dobson was vague about the details of Trump's supposed religious conversion, telling Anthony that while he knows the person responsible for "leading" Trump to Jesus, he would not name the person and couldn't specify the time or place. "I don't know when it was," said Dobson, "but it has not been long."
If it occurred, it must have been within the last three weeks. Here is a transcript of what Trump told me he believed about Jesus in a
"CT: Every president has called upon God at some point.
DT: And I have also won much evangelical support.
CT: Yes, I know that. You have said you never felt the need to ask for God's forgiveness, and yet repentance for one's sins is a precondition to salvation. I ask you the question Jesus asked of Peter: Who do you say He is?
DT: I will be asking for forgiveness, but hopefully I won't have to be asking for much forgiveness. As you know, I am Presbyterian and Protestant. I've had great relationships and developed even greater relationships with ministers. We have tremendous support from the clergy. I think I will be doing very well during the election with evangelicals and with Christians. In the
CT: Who do you say Jesus is?
DT: Jesus to me is somebody I can think about for security and confidence. Somebody I can revere in terms of bravery and in terms of courage and, because I consider the Christian religion so important, somebody I can totally rely on in my own mind."
No one can fully know what is in another person's heart, but this is not the language most evangelicals would consider as evidence of a religious conversion.
In his classic book "Mere Christianity,"
It is a strange thing when evangelicals divide their loyalty, hoping for an earthly "deliverer" as if any politician, or businessman, could save the country from its collective sins. They project their faith on many who do not share it and approve of that faith only in Republicans, never in Democrats, some of whom demonstrate more knowledge of Scripture and practice its teachings better than some Republicans.
Think of it this way. If you are about to have surgery, wouldn't you want the most competent doctor you can find regardless of his faith? That should also be the standard for electing a president.