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May 23, 2012

Ex-CIA spy in Iran's Revolutionary Guard: Baghdad talks highlight Western naivete
Tony Pugh: More private colleges offering tuition discounts
Lisa Gerstner: 4 Money-Etiquette Questions Answered
Mary Beth Franklin: How to Choose the Right Annuity for You
Art Markman, Ph.D.: Get smart: How to bulk up your creativity muscles
Tina Susman: The wig wasn't enough: Man gets 13 years for posing as his dead mom
The Kosher Gourmet by Emma Christensen:A simple way to do fish right
May 22, 2012
David S. Cloud and Kathleen Hennessey: Obama changes mind on Pakistan invite to NATO summit --- and then gets dissed by country's president
Warren Richey: Can US group challenge overseas surveillance act? Supreme Court to decide
Thomas M. Anderson: Walking Away From a Mortgage
Environmental Nutrition editors: The lowdown on a low-acid diet
The Kosher Gourmet by Megan Gordon: Enjoy a celebration of the most rich and layered flavors: Black bean, sweet potato and quinoa chili
May 21, 2012
Mark Clayton: Cybersecurity: How US utilities passed up chance to protect their networks
Howard LaFranchi: NATO summit: Who will foot the bill for long-term Afghanistan security?
Chris Farrell : Earn Dividends in Emerging Markets with This WisdomTree ETF
James K. Glassman: 5 Stock Picks Among Online Retailers
Stephen Whiteside, Ph.D. : Mayo Clinic Medical Edge: Social anxiety disorder --- or just shy?
Guy Jackson : Victim's father regrets death of Lockerbie bomber
The Kosher Gourmet by Mario Batali: Famed chef's veal shoulder farsumagru: A festive meat course for late spring
May 18, 2012
Rabbi Berel Wein: Striving: The People of the Book's Book for (All of) the People
Caroline B. Glick: Embracing dangerous delusions and not our friends
Steven Goldberg: 5 Great Stock Picks and the Exchange-Traded Fund that Owns Them
Janet Bodnar: How to Teach Kids to Handle Credit Cards
Mary Pickett, M.D.: Ask the Harvard Experts: Don't be forced into gluten-free lifestyle based merely on a doctor's false-positive test
The Kosher Gourmet by Carolyn Malcoun: DIY healthy lunchbox treats: HOMEMADE FRUIT BARS for kids and brown-bagging adults alike
May 17, 2012
Warren Richey: Teacher fired for being unwed and pregnant can sue religious school, court rules
Josh Mitnick: Netanyahu's 'centrist' coalition is already proving it's anything but
Steven Goldberg: Earn Dividends in Emerging Markets with This WisdomTree ETF
Mary Beth Franklin: Retirement Savings Tips for New Grads
Amina Khan: Research links coffee to lower death rates
Chelsea Sheasley: Social media: Is it too feminine?
The Kosher Gourmet by Faith Duran : Cheesy Potato Breakfast Casserole with Cheddar and Sun-Dried Tomatoes
May 16, 2012
Jackson Holahan: The Aleppo Codex
Jonathan Tobin : Iran Declares Victory in Nuclear Talks
Anne Kates Smith: 7 Stocks That Let You Sleep Tight
Carmen Terzic, M.D., Ph.D. : Mayo Clinic Medical Edge: A variety of exercises can help improve balance
Melissa Healy: National strategy on Alzheimer's disease aims to halt it by 2025
The Kosher Gourmet by Joyce White : GOODNESS GRACIOUS: GREENS! 4 winning recipes that are no longer just for down-home folks (Includes expert tips & techniques)
May 15, 2012
Dennis Prager: God and Man at (and for) Liberty
Kristen Chick: Obama administration resumes arms sales to Bahrain despite serious unresolved human rights issues. Activists feel abandoned
Pat Mertz Esswein: Homes are now affordable again and mortgage rates are low. What you need to know before you buy
Kathy Kristof: Our Practical Investor Fights Inflation with These 6 Investments
Sue Hubbard, M.D.: The Kid's Doctor: Lactose intolerant young child? Check again
Environmental Nutrition Editors: Get the facts on palm sugar sweetening
The Kosher Gourmet by Kathy Hunt: Spread a Little Excitement with EXOTIC CONDIMENTS (4 RECIPES)
May 14, 2012
Richard Simon: Purple Hearts for domestic terror victims?
Nando Pelusi, Ph.D.: The privacy paradox: Surrounded by strangers, we risk isolation, anxiety
Chris Farrell: Investing Lessons from the Great Recession
Lisa Gerstner: How to Protect Your Identity, Finances If You Lose Your Phone
Harvard Health Letters: Heart disease and dementia
Tiffany O'Callaghan: New hormone mimics effects of exercise without the sweat
The Kosher Gourmet by Megan Gordon: MANGO COCONUT OAT MORNING MUFFINS are a bright but hearty delight
May 11, 2012
Rabbi B. Shafier: Why happiness will always be elusive
Charles Krauthammer: Echoes of '67: Israel unites
Howard LaFranchi: With G8 snub, US-Putin 'reset' off to stumbling start
Jeremy J. Siegel: Investors, Relax About Rising Interest Rates
Jessica L. Anderson: Get the Best Deal on a Used Car
Jett Stone: Forget face-lifts and fake knees. Scientists have seen the fountain of youth --- and it's broccoli
The Kosher Gourmet by Chef Mario Batali: The famed chef's vegetable dish that tastes true to the season: FAVAS AND SUGAR SNAP PEAS WITH POTATOES AND TARRAGON
May 10, 2012
Clifford D. May: The Real Palestinian Refugee Problem
Sergei L. Loiko: Putin sends warning to U.S., NATO in Victory Day speech at Red Square
Mary Rourke: How being a 'mentch' got Vidal Sasoon his start and fighting in Israel's War of Independence provided him with confidence and a strong sense of his own identity
Harvard Health Letters: Palliative care: Underused therapy yields surprising benefits
Jeff Bertolucci: Get Home Phone Service for Less Than $10 a Month
Rachel L. Sheedy and Susan B. Garland : Make the Right Moves to Boost Benefits
The Kosher Gourmet by Betty Rosbottom: Gleaming with its golden, crimson, and snowy white hues, this silken smooth and creamy STRAWBERRY ORANGE TRIFLE looks impressive, but is easy to prepare
May 9, 2012
John Rosemond: Parents, stop destroying the American male
Valerie J. Nelson: Maurice Sendak, author of 'Where the Wild Things Are,' dies at 83
Bob Frick: Angst Over Annuities
Sharon Palmer, R.D. How you can reduce your risk -- or delay -- chronic diseases associated with aging
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The Kosher Gourmet by Emily Ho : Springtime soba with miso sauce offers a coloful mix of fresh textures and flavors
May 8, 2012
Edmund Sanders: Netanyahu suddenly cancels new elections, forms unity government
Frank J. Gaffney Jr.: Farewell to European superstate
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The Kosher Gourmet by Diane Rossen Worthington: Celebrate National Chocolate Chip Day with the Best Cookie Ever (Includes techniques)
May 7, 2012
Mark Clayton: Homeland Security warns major cyber attack aimed at gas pipeline industry underway
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The Kosher Gourmet by Penelope Wall: Classic Creamy Spinach Dip with a Fraction of the Calories and Fat
May 4, 2012
Rabbi Nathan Lopes Cardozo: Holy 'trivialities'
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Art Pine Slow Productivity Growth a Blessing --- For Now
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May 3, 2012
Michael Freund: Who's Afraid of the Messiah?
Clifford D. May: The Foggiest War
Susan B. Garland: Insurance to Cover Old Old Age
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Harvard Health Letters: Treating prostate cancer --- no rush to judgment
Larry Gordon: Harvard, MIT partner to offer free online courses
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The Kosher Gourmet by Diane Rossen Worthington: Intensely Italian vegetable frittata is a seriously simple standby


Jewish World Review June 22, 2005 / 15 Sivan, 5765

Why most comedy today stinks

By Jimmie Walker


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http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | The state of comedy has changed drastically since I started in the sixties.


Ed Sullivan, Jack Parr, Johnny Carson, Merv Griffin, and variety shows like Laugh-In, The Smothers Brothers, Glen Campbell, Mac Davis, and Sonny and Cher were the focus of comics. Game shows like Password, I've Got A Secret, Hollywood Squares, To Tell The Truth, and The Match Game were a great place for comics to show their wares. Clubs like The Hungry Eye in San Francisco, Mr. Kelly's in Chicago, Ciro's in Los Angeles, The Copa in New York City, and Playboy Clubs around the country were where comics worked in the sixties. Alan King, Totie Fields, Phyllis Diller, Joan Rivers, Freddie Roman, Foster Brooks, Charlie Callas, Norm Crosby, Shecky Green, Rich Little, Don Rickles, Nipsey Russell, Bill Cosby, Dick Gregory, and Myron Cohen were the comics of the day. These comics worked clean and wore suits and dresses. Most didn't have an interest in having their own TV show, although there is always the exception to the rule, Bill Cosby being the most notable.


The goal of most of these comics was to do TV, stand-up comedy, and to be popular enough to help a headliner draw in Vegas or a theater. Comedy changed when Cheech and Chong came along, a Hispanic and an Asian. They sported long hair, jeans and used four-letter words liberally. The kids loved them! It wasn't your dad's comedy anymore! They didn't do TV. They went the comedy album route instead and sold millions! They inspired George Carlin, Richard Pryor, and Steve Martin, who had been clean comics, to be more of themselves, use more language, and feel freer on stage. Comedy albums were once the domain of Bill Cosby, Bob Newhart, Mort Sahl, Lord Buckley, Redd Foxx, and others. Now, young people weren't just buying Led Zeppelin albums, they also wanted Cheech and Chong, Richar Pryor, and George Carlin albums as well.


The early days of Saturday Night Live opened the door for hipper guys like Steven Wright, Andy Kaufman, and Billy Crystal and well as many others. But a strange thing happened on the way to comedy heaven, comics lost their desire to go on the road. They lost their desire because of problems with club owners, morning radio jocks, lack of pay, and drunk or drug induced audiences. Comics opted for movies or TV development deals that have since become the norm for the new generation of comics. They found that it is easier to stay home (New York City, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, and Seattle) and work in front of a more sophisticated audience. Most try for a development deal that can pay up to a hundred thousand dollars or more. They then sit around with some studio writers and try to come up with a "new" sitcom. They don't go on the road but, they may work the local clubs on the weekend. Deals usually last for a year or so however, some negotiate deals year after year. The public never hears of most of these people, but they are making a good living. People like Harlen Williams, Louis CK, Guy Torrey, Aisha Tyler, Dave Chappelle are among the comics that the show-biz people really like and have worked out big deals.


How do you get a deal and what does it mean? A deal means that a studio will pay you to develop a show for them. The way to get a deal is to be young, have good management, and lastly to have a "hook". A "hook" is a unique point of view. Tim Allen's "Tool Guy" is a classic example. This "hook" is right from his comedy act. Mark Curry, from Hangin' With Mister Cooper, used his experience as a former college basketball player who didn't make the pros the basis for his comedy act. Margaret Cho is known as the Asian girl from the LA Valley with the crazy mother…her life and her act. Jerry Seinfeld was the comic with a show about nothing…his life and his act. D. L. Hughly, a middle class Black guy who moves into a white neighborhood…his current life and act. Roseanne, a white trash housewife, is all about her act. The list goes on and on.


These success stories don't mean that there's a guarantee that you'll get a show on the air. There are individuals who go through three or four deals and never get past the script stage. The sitcom highway is littered with people who have had forgettable shows in sitcom land. A partial list includes: Ellen Cleghorne, Ralph Harris, Rondell Sheridan, John Caponera, Rich Jeni, Jon Mendoza, Harlen Williams, Kevin Pollack, Mitch Mullany, Darryl Sivad, and Robert Schimmel. Good management is of the utmost importance! For comics wanting a deal there are only a few to note. Brillstein/Grey, if you're not working and you're with them, you're with the best! Nessina/Baker, see the previous. Gold/Miller…is very strong. Sharpio/West…Jerry Seinfeld…enough said! Morra, Brezner, Steinberg, and Tennebaum are a spin off of Rollins and Joffe who still have Woody Allen, an older office but still a force. In combination with agencies like CAA, I.C.M., William Morris, and United Talent, these are the most important.


If you get a deal, the next step is getting the writers for your show, usually folks who also have a deal as writers. This is where one of the many problems occurs. Often you will work with writers who don't really know the act and so the writing for the show ends up poles apart from the original proposal. This is the time when you hear form the Rosannes and Brett Butlers of the world. That's basically how it works.


While you are waiting for "The Deal" to happen, you try to work out an hour or half hour comedy special with HBO. An arrangement like that gives the comic another fifty thousand dollars or more in their hand. All of this takes place without ever having to go on the road. Today's generation of comics haven't been on the road long enough to develop a road savvy act. In the absence of such an act, they use four letter words to replace talent and jokes. With network TV no longer in place, cable has taken over and such language no longer presents a problem.

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The American public expects dirt in their comedy whether it be on TV or in nightclubs. If you ask the average person on the street what they want in comedy they will state that they want clean stuff ...it's a lie! Morning radio has taken over as the best place to promote comics and clubs. Sad but true, The Howard Stern Show is the best place for comics to get recognized. Other syndicated radio shows such as Bob and Tom, and a few others have taken over for stand-up on TV. Reality T.V. has changed comedy... because reality is so inexpensive to do production deals to comics are not being handed out as easy.. this was a big source of income to comics... now it has dried up...comics haven't left comedy... comedy has left us...Reality T.V. is here to stay ... but comedy clubs aren't...There are still comics that are road warriors...


The most successful touring comics today (that means drawing crowds) are as follows: George Carlin (who may not be as funny as he once was) continues to create a yearly HBO comedy special, Jeff Foxworthy, draws with his "White Trash Tour", James Gregory (the biggest comic in the South) is very clean in a time of four letter words, Sean Morley (big because of his radio appearances on Bob and Tom) draws very well with his song parodies, Dan Whitney AKA "Larry the Cable Guy" is also part of "The Blue Collar Tour", Pauly Shore (despite show business hate) is still a major draw around the country, Tommy Chong (who has slowed his touring because he's a regular on "That Seventies Show") is an icon and his legend is gigantic!


I know the industry people won't lie to hear this but, Carrot Top is the number one comic draw in the county…GET OVER IT!" Funniest night club comics include: Rich Jeni (who would love to be a concert headliner but is a club comic) is one of the best, Bobby Slayton ("The Pit Bull of Comedy") is simply great, Bernie Mac (old school, stories) has a very strong delivery, George Wallace -- Delicious!


Black comics, the best by far is George Wallace in the commercial market. Chris Rock is a hard worker and pays attention to the craft (reminds me a lot of myself). Then there's the Def Jam and BET comics, and there are a lot of them. Cedric the Entertainer is expressly for Black audiences and very funny. Dave Chappelle is an industry favorite. Still out there are Sinbad and Mark Curry. Paul Mooney was Def Jam before Def Jam, former writer for In Living Color and Richard Pryor. He will cut to your last nerve, a wicked genius but not for everyone because, "You can't handle the truth!" Richard Pryor has dominated the comedy world for three decades.


The list of Pryor imitators is too long to discuss. Latino comics are lead by Carlos Menica. He can and has drawn fifteen hundred or more in Hispanic markets. Paul Rodriquez is the veteran and spokesman for the Hispanic market. Freddie Soto and Willie Barcena have worked the "Loco Slam" and other tours with Rodriquez. Luke Torres is a Hispanic impressionist.


The most sophisticated of the Latino comics, and my personal favorite, is George Lopez. He calls himself, "The Smart Mexican".


Political comedy in the twenty-first century is dead!


Most people don't read. For comics, it's too much writing. Gone are the Mort Sahls and Lenny Bruces. Dennis Miller is viewed as the best in the field. Two of my favorites are Argus Hamilton and Lewis Black. Jimmy Tingle is not far behind. Will Durst is revered as a legend in San Francisco even though he was born in the Midwest. The women…I have always loved, loved, loved Elayne Boosler, but, she's not liked in the industry. Wendy Lidbman is the industry favorite along with Janeane Garofalo and Rita Rudner has support from some folks. Pam Stone has not been given any credit for being as good as she is and is now in semi-retirement. Margaret Smith, in the Steven Wright vein, is too smart to be successful…what a shame!


Kathleen Madigan, a night club comic, has great intelligence. Diane Ford, an old time night club comic, is hardcore. Mary Ellen Hopper is winner of Best Female Comic of the Year? Vanessa Hollinshead is a sensational new comic. Adele Givens, Felica Michaels, and Thea Videl are part of the wave of blue female comics, if you like that kind of thing. Wanda Sykes is unbelievable! She has deals everywhere! With an Emmy for her writing on the Chris Rock Show and as the winner of Female Comic of the Year in New York City and Los Angeles, catch her if you can!!! Being an industry favorite means development deals, getting a chance to fall and come back again, more money for corporates, and good management. The downside is that the rest of America doesn't know who you are. Among those people are: Wendy Libeman, Dave Chappelle, Louie CK, Harlen Williams, Merrill Markoe, and Orlando Jones. Stand-up isn't something people stay into for a long time. Most comics don't expect to be doing it for all of their lives. Nobody works at it as hard as the old timers, and as soon as something else happens, they're out of stand-up. A partial list of comics who have left stand-up since "scoring" with a sitcom or a movie include: Ellen DeGeneres, Roseanne, Michael Keaton, Jim Carrey, Drew Carrey, Martin Lawrence, Tim Allen, Brad Garrett, Richard Belzer, Rosie O'Donnell, Billy Crystal, Carol Leifer, Larry Miller, Paul Reiser, Gary Shandling, Robert Wuhl, Steve Martin, Chris Tucker, and to a lesser degree, Arsenio Hall, Eddie Murphy, and Sandra Bernhardt (who really weren't stand-up in the first place). Once considered the "Comics' Comic", Jay Leno is no longer a comic force. He's taken his seventeen million dollars a year (and just as many automobiles and motorcycles) and has transported himself into a comedy purgatory, preferring to say, "Do joke…get check." Maybe he's right. Others go into writing. A partial list of comics who have left stand-up for writing include: Hugh Fink, Billy Reback, Jack Coen, Warren Hutcherson, John Ridley, Schmock and Vallely (The Funny Boys), John Riggi, JJ Wall, Mike Binder, and Fred Wolf. The state of stand-up today is very blue and dirty…but there are good comics around…lots of them!


If you're a comic and are not doing T.V., don't have a deal with a network , can't sell out a venue (club or major hall) not writing projects and are just working clubs...the best thing for you and me are working cruises... yes ..I know you're the greatest comic in the world but it hasn't gotten you to the promise land yet...I know cruises aren't the most creative thing... but you don't have to draw an audience... you get treated good... no comedy condo, no crazy club owners .the club scene is dead... and no morning radio...What I have given you is a thumb nail sketch of stand-up today.


Of course, there are exceptions to the rule. There are close to ten thousand comedians around, and I have left many of them out, but that doesn't mean that they're not out there. When you get a chance, support your local comedy club and keep laughing!

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